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#11

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Re: Python Wars =96 Peace=20 Proposals

Hi Vince,
Thinking about = it: Rob is=20 right =96 isn=92t he? There=92s another thread which has = been set-aside=20 for your customers to convey their experiences, whilst there = are=20 numerous others which have slid into slanging matches. Here, = Rob has=20 given us a venue in which we can lay out the reasonableness, = or=20 otherwise, of our respective positions. Man to man; without = being=20 taunted, or interfered with, by third parties.

I = believe my=20 post #6, which you dismissed as =91crap=92 and = =91propaganda=92, was in fact=20 a very factual, honest and reasoned summary of my present = concerns=20 about you and Python. I left out the separate issues = which I=20 have with Peter Filby. Like why he got involved with = Python=20 in the first place and why he attempted to scupper = Pilgrim=20 and what you stood to gain. Because, believe it or = not, I=20 accepted your pleading that there was no point in delving = too far=20 back into the murky past.

You said that you accepted = that =93at=20 least some of our past differences will need resolving=94. = However,=20 when push came to shove, it transpired that there=92s = absolutely=20 nothing in the past, or even in the present for that matter, = that=20 you want to so much as discuss. That doesn=92t bode well for = the=20 future =96 does it?

To counter the 60 pages of = publicity your=20 products received in Peter=92s rag in 2006, I published a = 1/12th page=20 ad each month that says (in your words and style) =93Python = - Think=20 about it=85.=94 To which I=92ve added underneath =93=85.Very = carefully=85 Is it=20 really x, y & z?=94. I also published, a few times, your = very own=20 1/8th page ads which read =93Python =96 You have been = warned=94. Finally,=20 In the December issue, I published a guide entry page which=20 comprised, in the main, an extract from the ONLY independent = report=20 there has ever been on Python.

It seems that my 2 =BD = pages=20 have completely negated Peter=92s 60 pages, yet you = strangely advise=20 =93you had better carry on printing what you want in your = mag=94. Whilst=20 I thank you for giving your permission and encouragement: do = you=20 really want to maintain this present status quo? Is = that in=20 either of our best interests?

Should you have a = change of=20 attitude, you know where to find me. In the meantime, = here=92s a few=20 extracts from e-mails and PM=92s I=92ve received since I = spelled out my=20 concerns. The identities of the authors have been withheld = to=20 protect their innocence (LOL!). All I=92ll add is that many = of them=20 previously criticised my stance and that nobody, but nobody, = has=20 done that concerning this particular thread.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Your Potential=20 Customers

=93Well done for = trying Den,=20 but it seems to me that every post of Vince's is now=20 back-peddling.=94

=93Den, I must say what an = excellent=20 post=94

=93I would love to see a constructive = reply. Good=20 luck with the whole saga.=94

=93Go on Den, give = him some=20 ****. The way Philby praises the car gets right up my = nose.=94=20

=93Seems the same old same old is coming from = Vince,=20 back on the defensive instead of dealing with the = issues - In=20 some ways I feel sorry for him in a weird way - maybe = he only=20 has poison ivy instead of olive branches where he=20 lives.=94

The = ball=92s back in your=20 court. Do you really want another year like this one? Will = Filby=20 increase your coverage to 120 pages? Would that = work?
Perhaps you=20 should follow your own exhortations:-

Quote:

Originally Posted by Your Own=20 Advertisements

=93You have = been=20 warned=85=85Think about=20 = it=85.=94

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Re: Python Wars =96 Peace=20 Proposals

Quote:

Originally Posted by kitcarman = 3D"View

1. Your = Disrespect=20 gets right up my = nose.

I was=20 always told that RESPECT HAD TO BE EARNED!! = and i=20 think the name call ing started with you with the CON_VINCED = stuff=20 on PH

Quote:

Originally Posted by kitcarnan =

Name calling, = accusations,=20 unsettling what=92s been resolved in Court, arguing = points which=20 seem obvious, raising emotive issues which don=92t = seem=20 relevant, taping =91without prejudice=92 = conversations, misquoting=20 and quoting out of context, and the like. Always, it = seems, in=20 an attempt to assassinate the messenger rather than = deal with=20 the message. Your disrespect isn=92t just directed at = me either,=20 but toward everybody who disagrees with you in any way = (even=20 those trying to help = you).

only=20 the ones that are pushing YOUR views! as was show by all = of Dave=20 brooks posts on the seat hight, as you where just about to = print the=20 picture from the BMW mag. with the guy's head above the = screen when=20 the seat was set wrong for tall drivers. to make out this = was a so=20 caled problem with the python.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kitcarnan =

2. Your business = Ethics seem wrong to me. Employing Peter Filby = to=20 promote your Python was iffy by any objective = analysis. Your=20 booking advertising with no intention of paying was=20 reprehensible. I=92m sure it was a right hoot for you = and Peter=20 when you booked it on the eve of your departure to Sri = Lanka.

The add = was booked for=20 one month only as you well know! and before i had even met = Zarook!=20 this you also know! I had not even thought of going to Sri = lanker=20 untill after the show that the add was to promote! you never sent a bill at all to may house or to = the WKC=20 office in almost three years 3D""=20

but managed to send a Court order to PETER and = ME at the=20 office, trying to get peter again but the judge decided that = peter=20 WAS NOT PART OF RVD AT THE TIME THE ADD WAS PLACED, any one = can see=20 the Briton court records to see that you are making up more = LIES 3D""=20

you would not take the money that floyd offered = you at=20 Exeter 2004 as we could see from what you did next that you = had=20 other plans, TO GET FILBY 3D""=20

Quote:

Originally Posted by kitcarnan =

Telling me from = there that =93I=20 haven=92t a snowball in hells chance=94 of getting = paid was, no=20 doubt, very funny at the time too. Is it still funny? = I think=20 not. The customer you caught for a Bugrat deposit and = the one=20 fobbed-off with a poor Nemesis kit clearly don=92t = think so=20 either.

the Bug = Rat guy you=20 talk of John blackburn decided he did not want the kit after = it was=20 delivered to the Uk and I think i am well with in my rights = to keep=20 the deposit to cover my material costs. as it was made to = his order=20 and no use with out mods to any one else. as they say you = cannot=20 please all the people all the time. as for Andy i dont think = he=20 knows what car he dose want looking at what he is up to = know, ? two=20 customers that where not 100% happy does not make for a bad = company.=20 or FORD'S would have closed a long time ago.

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Originally Posted by kitcarnan =

3. Your business = looks=20 Unstable to me. Since you fell out with Zarook, = you=92ve=20 been a squatter in his=20 factory

You for get to = mention=20 that you have TEEMED UP with Zarook now 3D""=20

. and "squatter in his factory" is not how = the HIGH=20 COURT of Colombo or the goverment see it? they see it that i = am=20 protecting my assets and goods from the said Mr Marikkar.

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Originally Posted by kitcarnan =

=96 he says you=92ve = not paid rent=20 for 3 years.

Is = that what HE=20 says he would say he owned the moon if he thought he could = get money=20 from some one!!. the truth is that i have and = INJUNCTION=20 against this man as a HIGH COURT judge was convinced by = the=20 evidence in front of him that this man was trying to steel = all of my=20 goods and assets, and as long as the case is running (and in = SL we=20 are talking years and years not months) i am to remain in = the=20 factory as i payed for over half of it (and have the bills = to show=20 that) and continue with MY operations, so you information is = not=20 correct here at all.

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Originally Posted by kitcarnan =

What=92s more, I=92m = informed that=20 you=92ve a stack of legal, tax, employment and = emigration issues=20 piling up against you. It seems to me that it=92s only = a matter=20 of time before one of these cases results in your = deportation,=20 bankruptcy or at least eviction from Zarook=92s=20 factory.

not me = Zarook has all=20 the bills as he was the one that removed me from the = original Orizio=20 Motors Ltd and made all of his family the directors and = liable for=20 all the local taxes by law, i think his latest thing to get = away=20 from paying up (as he always does) is to bribe some one at = company=20 house to remove the records of Orizio as when i last asked = for some=20 papers they could not find them?:?? a real honest guy you = have=20 teemed up with den!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by kitcarnan =

4. Your = Product=92s=20 Engineering. Whether you like it or not: there = are some=20 very knowledgeable engineers who are adamant that the = Python=92s=20 front suspension modification is=20 lethal.

that would not = be you=20 then den as your Degree is as an ELECTRICAL ENGINEER !!! is = it=20 not??? the SVA tester (an engineer that is trained by VOSA) = had no=20 problem with any part of the design of the car and any one = who has=20 read the SVA manual will find a large section on structure = and=20 Design. but den will say this does not count and they dont = know what=20 they are looking at (as he has posted this on PH)

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Originally Posted by kitcarnan =

5. Your = Partner=92s=20 Involvement. As I said earlier, my concern here is = ethical. Fib=92s has devoted roughly 60 pages to your = products=20 in the 12 issues of 2006 - 10 pages in one issue = alone!=20 Excessive or = what?

I think it=20 was Robert that put this one very well "YOU CAN LEAD A = HORSE TO=20 WATER BUT YOU CANNOT MAKE IT DRINK!!! so what if the mag was = just=20 one big add for the python are people going to buy just = because a=20 mag says it good ?? I don't think so as so many = people here=20 have said they all do there home work and then make up there = OWN=20 minds.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kitcarnan =

However, it=92s = soooo=20 sickeningly biased as to be laughable. Quoting from = the=20 November issue, page 91, Fib=92s says of Python = =93Designed by=20 Vince Wright, one of the most skilled=20 engineers

that is = not what=20 i have said but peter and in his opinion i may be, but as it = is=20 not your opinion then it must not be true!! The late = Chris=20 humberstone once told me he thought that there was around a = 100=20 people in the UK that could do what i can, not bad out off = 66milion,=20 and i can find you loads here that will say im probable the = ONLY=20 person in Sr lanker that can do what i do! so others are = allowed to=20 have THERE OPINION ! even if it is not the same as = YOURS!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by kitcarnan =

in the kit = car=20 industry=94 and that it=92s =93the most = advanced and=20 refreshingly practical of Cobra replicas=94 with =93an = unusually roomy=20 cockpit=94

well = lots of=20 people of all sizes have fitted in the car AND EVEN YOUR = VERY OWN=20 TOM SAUNDERS or are you going to lie about that as well? did = any one=20 sit in the car at Exeter (post on the removed bit if you = did? what=20 was YOUR opinion??)

Quote:

Originally Posted by kitcarnan =

and =93one of the = best=20 looking=94. I wonder just how many people concur = with Fib=92s=20 =91impartial=92 opinion? Fib=92s involvement is low on = my=20 snag list because I reckon it=92s been = counter=96productive for=20 both of you. Perhaps you=92ve finally worked that out = too, thus=20 explaining why it=92s at the top of your snag=20 list?

EASY THAT ONE = I GOT ALL=20 YOUR VENGEANCE AND HATRED OF PETER FILBY THROWN AT ME AND = ALL OF=20 MY PRODUCTS , AS IN YOUR MIND IF YOU CANNOT GET THE ONE YOU = WANT=20 THEN GO FOR SECOND BEST!!
I think it was in kill bill = that the=20 wise old sord maker (im sure some one will tell me if im = wrong!)=20 said "IF YOU GO OUT FOR REVENGE? YOU HAD BETTER DIG TO = GRAVES!!"=20 seem's to me thats just what you are doing!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by kitcarnan =

Quote:

Originally Posted by kitcarnan =

Realistically Vince, = I believe=20 that if I=92m right about any one of the above = points,=20 I=92d be justified in having given you a hard=20 time.

Is that how = a school=20 bully justify s hitting the fat kid ? as he know he is Fat = so he has=20 the right to take out his anger on the innocent!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by kicarnan =

So, it=92s now over = to you to=20 evaluate my concerns. If you think any are justified = then you=20 should propose a remedy. If you believe me to be = mistaken or=20 miss-informed then you should explain your side of the = story.

I = believe you are=20 totally MISS INFORMED, any thing you get from your SL = corespondent=20 will definitely not be true as he is incapable of telling = the truth.=20

Quote:

Originally Posted by kitcarnan =

As I said, true = peace comes=20 from resolving differences. I don=92t expect all the = above to be=20 resolved overnight, but in this season of goodwill it = must be=20 possible to at least start the process. Believe me, my = attitude would completely transform if I thought you = were=20 trying to do = so.

The big=20 problem is that you only BELIEVE WHAT YOU WANT TO BE TRUE !! = and not=20 the FACTS, you know as well as me that Z has told you lie = after lie=20 and you just forget them as he tells you more because YOU = WANT IT TO=20 BE SO! SO BADLY it is now your whole life to BRING DOWN = FILBY AND=20 ALL THING'S RVD.

what about the time Z told you that = HE had=20 the INJUNCTION AGAINST ME!! and that HE had payed for NEW = MOULDS to=20 be made??? and i sent you and Graham Bell (of PH) the = picture of the=20 mould with the plate on that said "Property of Unique = Autocraft=20 HARLOW, you still keep printing the car was made for new = moulds and=20 had not been tested for fit or any thing else.

You = will=20 never take the TRUTH on broad as it JUST does not FIT in you = plan to=20 BRING FILBY DOWN!!!! and any one with half a brain should be = able to=20 see that all of this has nothing to do with the car AND ALL = TO DO=20 WITH ONE MANS OBSESSION !!!=20

Vince
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Den.[/quote]

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Re: Python Wars =96 Peace=20 Proposals

Hi Vince,
Many words - but = not much=20 wisdom IMO.

Disrespect
Actually, you should = have=20 been taught to treat people with respect. How you = treat=20 people reveals more about your character than=20 theirs.

Ethics
You say =93any one can see = the Briton=20 court records to see that you are making up more LIES 3D""=20

=94.
The advertising issue was indeed = resolved in Court=20 and the papers are here:-
http://www.kit-cars.com/fff/fffile6Python.html=20 (look near the bottom of the page, at the paragraph starting = =93Also=20 in Jan 2002, VW booked=85.=94).

Please follow the = links to Tom=92s=20 account of your booking (he gets cross at being called a = liar too!),=20 my Claim, your Affidavit (in which you said you=92d paid?) = and the=20 Judgment (which you=92ve not settled either).

You = also say =93two=20 customers that where not 100% happy does not make for a bad=20 company=94. Maybe not: until you look at what percentage = they=20 represent and why they aren't = happy.

Business=20 Unstable?
Never mind the business: I think there=92s = serious=20 instability of another kind.
I find your allegations and = lop-sided view of other people's characters quite = distasteful.=20 Zarook is in fact a VERY respected member of the Sri Lankan = business=20 and political community. He was your partner too =96 = wasn=92t he?=20 Presumably he was alright at the start?

So, according = to you,=20 =93i am protecting my assets and goods=85. and as long as = the case is=20 running=85. i am to remain in the factory as i payed for = over=20 half of it=94. In the meantime =93Zarook has = all the=20 bills=85 as he was the one that removed me from the original = Orizio=20 Motors Ltd=94.

Three questions arise=85 Who owns the = land? A=20 simple Land Registry enquiry would sort that one.
Are you = quite=20 certain that you own half the building on that land, = and if=20 so, why does Zarook get all the bills?
What is to = happen=20 to you when the Court case stops 'running' =96 are = you going to=20 remove your half of the building from his land?

I was = actually under the impression that Orizio Motors Ltd owned = both the=20 land and the building, but who owns that company? Obviously = not you=20 =96 hey? Another simple Company's House enquiry would sort = that one=20 too.

I=92m sure it=92s all completely clear-cut in = your mind.=20 Just as the advertising issue is neatly resolved in your = mind! Even=20 so, to be safe, I hope you've got adequate financial = reserves put to=20 one side.

Technical Matters
You say =93den = as your=20 Degree is as an ELECTRICAL ENGINEER !!! is it not???=94. Yes = that's=20 right, there=92s therefore no concern = then?

Filby=92s=20 Involvement
You say =93so what if the mag was just = one big add=20 for the python=85..=94 Provided that it was clearly labelled = as such,=20 there would be no concern from me. My concern has been with = the=20 gamekeeper-turned-poacher aspects. Readers might see things=20 differently though - they don't like paying for brochures = these=20 days.

You say =93i can find you loads here that will = say im=20 probable the ONLY person in Sr lanker that can do what i = do!=94 I=20 don't doubt that. You don=92t have to ask in Sri Lanka; I = reckon there=20 are people over here that would agree that you=92re quite=20 unique.

I=92ll not enter into futile arguments about = fat boys,=20 who is or is not a liar, who is trying to kill whom or your=20 philosophical arguments concerning the difference between = belief and=20 truth.

My replies to your few substantive points are = as=20 stated above.

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Re: Python Wars =96 Peace=20 Proposals

Moved on den not going over = all this=20 again and again!!!

Vince.

if any one does want = to see=20 it all the same thing over and over just buy KIT CAR or look = on=20 PH!!!!

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Re: Python Wars =96 Peace=20 Proposals

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Originally Posted by vince RVD = 3D"View

Moved on den not = going over=20 all this again and=20 again!!!

Vince,
If = only that=20 were true!
All you=92ve actually done is move your = defensive=20 twaddle back into other threads =96 evidenced by your other = posts of=20 today. I=92m surprised that Robert lets you get away with=20 it.

As to my specific concerns herein: You=92ve not = addressed=20 any issues at all; instead you=92ve buried your head deeper = into the=20 sand whilst leaving your a*** exposed for all to = kick.

It=20 seems to me that you=92ve confirmed that you do indeed have = a severe=20 attitude problem, an integrity problem and mega legal = problems. The=20 concerns about technical problems simply represent the final = nail in=20 the coffin lid. It seems to me that one would have to be = bonkers to=20 buy anything from you, and even more so to do it on the = =91so what=92s=20 it got do with you=92 recommendation of your partner. =

Quote:

Originally Posted by vince RVD = 3D"View

if any one does want = to see it=20 all the same thing over and over just buy KIT=20 CAR=85

In Kit Car = they=92ll=20 read:-

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kit Car =

=93Python=85 = Think About It=85.=20 Very = Carefully!=94

On the=20 other hand, if they want to read, over and over, that = you=92re the=20 best engineer in the kit car industry (God help us), = producing the=20 most advanced and best looking Cobra, they=92d better read = Which Kit=20 Car? =96 is that right?

Do you know what Vince? = after=20 reading your responses herein; I can=92t see that any = reasonable=20 person would blame Kit Car for honestly warning its readers = about=20 the shambles that is Vince Wright, RVD and Python.=20

Your olive branch was, according to the = parallel=20 thread, that Kit Car ignores your obnoxious = behaviour, Kit=20 Car ignores the fact that you ripped us off (and stand = in=20 Contempt of the Court=92s ruling on the point) , Kit = Car=20 ignores all its commercial and technical concerns about your = company=20 and its product, Kit Car tests your product, Kit = Car=20 publishes a favourable report on it, then Kit Car = hopefully,=20 apologises for its previous legitimate warnings. Some olive = branch -=20 hey?

What are you taking, Vince? =

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Re: Python Wars =96 Peace=20 Proposals

Ok every=20 one lets look at this front suspension = setup!
Page 22 of KIT = CAR December=20 2006 top right hand corner and the caption =93the new = radiator is=20 an improvement over the ford unit while the bracing between = the=20 ROCKING ARMS locks the pivots and adds = strength=94 no=20 cross bracing to be seen!! No WARNINGS that this is a LETHAL = suspension design???? Under that picture 5 lines down it = states=20 =93Jeremy always went for cheap, abundantly and easily = available,=20 scrap-yard components and combined them with excellent = engineering=20 designs to create a car that really worked=94=20

How can it be that this set = up so=20 close to the pythons is so good on a striker = ??? But=20 not on a python ??

Oh I think I know = that one=20 !!! Mel is not =93in with=94 Peter Filby=20 !!!

How the striker chassis does = not get=20 the =93statement=94 that the chassis =93lacks = front cross=20 bracing=94 ??

Oh I know this one as well !!! = Mel is=20 not =93in with=94 Peter Filby=20 !!!

How is it that the = striker=92s front=20 suspension (as pictured on page 24 lower middle) Does not = get a=20 damming WARRING on it ???

Oh I know this = one, it=20 that same as all the other answers !!! Mel is = not=20 =93in with=94 Peter=20 Filby.!!!

YES THAT=92S THE RIGHT ANSWERS=20 !!!!

Is it just me? Or can some of the people with = =93there own=20 brain=94 see some kind of paten=20 here????

If it smells of fish? Is it not fish? If it smells = of BULL=20 SH$T is it not still BULL SH$T??

You can say what you = like about=20 ME and RVD but WE have never stooped so low as to parse one = maker=92s=20 Designs, on one page and slag almost the same thing off only = a few=20 pages later.

For all you guys that have JAG = based kits Den=20 states: That your cars are made from =93obsolescent = Donor=20 components=94 as that is what he states on page 299 = of course=20 this is with jag bits on a Nemesis, an RVD car! And why is = he=20 stating this here but pushing the Jag based Cobras over the=20 python??? (Contradicting himself once=20 again!)??

Oh I know this one as = well!!! They=20 have =93NO LINKS=94 with Peter=20 Filby!!

HAVE THE SLOW ONES AT THE BACK OF = THE CLASS=20 WORKED OUT WHAT THE LINK IS???
Or are they just going to keep on = attacking=20 mark for his spelling!!
And knocking the very people they said they wanted = to here=20 from?
CUSTOMERS of RVD, not people that have never even = sat in the=20 car let alone Driven the thing! As some one else = stated=20 NONE OF RVD CUSTOMERS are on here complaining = about a=20 single thing!!

The only Complaints = are from=20 people that have vested interests in seeing the Python not = do well.=20 And we all know who they are!

If I was Mark I = don=92t think I=20 would bother with any more posts and just enjoy his build = and his=20 car and not worry about all this.
It is very apparent = that the=20 point that mark has NO COMPLAINTS AT ALL has = been=20 totally glossed over and his spelling is the most important = thing it=20 seem=92s, the fact that he is a happy RVD customer and happy = to tell=20 anyone whatever they what to know, is totally irrelevant = (maybe=20 it does not fit the impression that some people are trying = very hard=20 to push) Simon has also received attack after attack, = conspiracy=20 plots and much more (it=92s all in the old python=20 threads)
So don=92t be surprised if the only time python = customers are=20 seen are at kit show and out and about, as who need=20 this?NO ONE! =

To be constantly = mocked and told=20 that you should =93GET A SPELL CHECK=94 from ill informed = bankers (=20 there should be a =93w=94 in there some where?) it just goes = to show the=20 level of some of the people on here. Not every one but like = football=20 thugs it only takes a few!
Those who want to = know about the=20 python only need to go and drive it or talk to the = customers. I can=20 give their mail to the guys and if they want they will talk = all you=20 want on there builds. With out people taking the P155 out of = them=20 all the time!!

If you don=92t want = to buy a=20 python fine with me! I am not forcing any one!! It=92s your=20 money!!
I=20 have so much work. I don=92t need = extra;
I may even get time = to work on=20 all the =93backburner=94 projects.(Den forgets no one know = who the F Den=20 Tanner is out here! and do not care who the F he is, or in = the USA=20 the UK is only a small market compared to US and Asia. to = Global=20 RVD)

One good thing about the third = world you=20 don=92t need huge money to do things, what DAX need in a = week, will=20 keep me going for months. SO GO ON DEN DO YOUR WORST I = WILL=20 STILL BE HERE!!!!

That=92s it for me, very thick = skinned=20

Vince

Ps. Marry Christmas = & a=20 happy new year to you all even Den.

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Ok every one lets look at = this front=20 suspension = setup!

Please=20 do. The photo he refers to is attached.

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Page 22 of KIT = CAR December=20 2006 top right hand corner and the caption =93the = new=20 radiator is an improvement over the ford unit while = the=20 bracing between the ROCKING ARMS locks = the=20 pivots and adds strength=94

no cross bracing = to be=20 seen!!

When in = fact there=92s=20 clearly an upper brace behind the radiator (in square = section=20 steel), another upper cross-brace behind the suspension = coil-over=20 shocks in round section =96 linking the rearward rocker-arm = pivots=20 (exactly what the caption says) . Plus there=92s at least = two lower=20 cross-bracing members =96 all clearly visible in the=20 photograph.

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No WARNINGS that = this is a=20 LETHAL suspension=20 design????

The second = photo=92=20 shows the correct kind of ball-joint (for lateral loads) in = this RAW=20 application.

Furthermore, this RAW all looks right, = present=20 and correct. Something, I=92m afraid, that cannot be said of = Python.=20 One is arguably lethal; whilst the other is neat and tidy = and proved=20 in operation.

My Lords, Ladies and Gentlemen:
I = rest my=20 case.
Ordinarily I would have called for a harsh = penalty: but in=20 this case the defendant seems to have hung himself. =
May I=20 suggest that he be banished to a harsh and lonely existence = on the=20 island of Ceylon?

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I'll try again with the=20 attachments:-

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Re: Python Wars =96 Peace=20 Proposals

Sorry Folks - Third time = lucky?

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HAVE THE SLOW = ONES AT THE=20 BACK OF THE CLASS WORKED OUT WHAT THE LINK IS???=20

No Vince,
I = think=20 they=92re still working on cross braces.

Just for the = record -=20 I never even used the expression. My words, on the page you = were=20 winging about, were that your design =93lacks lateral = frontal=20 bracing=94. Explicit enough =96 hey?

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the UK is only a = small market=20 compared to US and Asia. to Global RVD

SO = GO ON=20 DEN DO YOUR WORST I WILL STILL BE=20 HERE!!!!

That=92s it for me=85.=20

Vince

I = think you=92ll=20 find that Asians and Americans will have exactly the same = technical=20 concerns as the chaps here in Britain. I think you=92ll find = that they=20 also highly rate politeness in their business dealings=20 too.

Goodbye and good luck =96 I think you=92ll need = it.=20

Have a nice day!

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